Baby

[imported_Tanja]

Wow, that's great!
I have to re-do this mabe a hundred more times, till I have the workflow in my head, but think it's good used time.
Have to try this again on my portrait pictures.

Somewhere I made a mistake. After the cm workflow, the baby was still a little bit too magenta and also too cyan (first picture).
I adjust a little bit in ps, because I'm more familar with the cmyk-numbers there. Mabe still to cyan, but accaptable for me (picture two).

Greetings, Tanja

[ggroess]

Picture two looks very nice....

Greg

[imported_Tanja]

Greg, do you have an idea, what mabe went wrong with the curvemeister-workflow?

Greetings, Tanja

[ggroess]

Usually when this happens it is because of the sample size or placement. 

Skin pins are difficult. 

The biggest thing I can say is that you need to be close in RGB before applying skin pins. All of my skin pins are written for RGB.  If you use them in CMYK you will get inconsistent results.

We can cover some of this this week.
I do not always use the workflow you are trying most times the color is just fine and reasonable and I do not have to use this...

Try this thread out.
http://www.curvemeister.com/forum/index.php/topic,613.0.html

or this one:
http://www.curvemeister.com/forum/index.php/topic,2635.0.html

Happy reading...
Greg

[imported_Tanja]

Thanks Greg!
Wow, this is a lot to read. Needs a while.
Meanwhile I found a portrait with a red cast and try the workflow on this again.
I ever have to fight with skintones. This is very, very interesting for me.

By the way: These zone-pins looks very interesting too. Lot to read and learn!
Is this part of class 201?

Greetings, Tanja

[ggroess]

The zone pins can be used for parts of the 201 class. 

A large part of the 201 is about tone and good black and white being the backbone of good color images.

Greg

[imported_Tanja]

Alright! When we start 201?  ;)
Sounds like building perfect channels for the best color image. I really need more help for that.
But I give you a little more time to complete this course. First I have to finished my relocation.
After this, you get daily emails, when you're not ready til then  ;D ;D ;D

But at the time, I still have some problems with the skintone workflow.
First picture is after setting highlight, shadow and neutral. Color cast is gone and skintone looks good for me.
But I want to exercise more with the workflow. Second picture is after this. Too much magenta.
What went wrong? Not the right position for the pin? But other positions brings totally wrong colors.

Greetings, Tanja

[ggroess]

Let me look at these and I'll get back to you...
Greg

[ggroess]

Tanja,

In the images below you see where I would place hue clocks for this image.  Notice that none of the hue clocks are in areas with Makeup applied. 

If you chose areas with makeup you are not getting skin tones you are getting makeup tones.  I do not know what the values should be for that brand and color of makeup so I cannot correct to them.  In the first shot the skin tones are reasonable.  It looks like you could just do a straight saturation increase and get better overall tone using the saturation slider in LAB.  See shot 3

In my portrait work I typically increase the saturation to 1.15 on almost all of my shots after corrections.  If it does not look right then we need to go deeper into what you are looking for.

Greg

[imported_Tanja]

Hi Greg,

this is mabe a bad example. After correction by numbers, the skintone looks okay to me.
Normally I got problems with too grey skintones and have to much cyan in my cmyk-numbers.
Hope I find something better.

Never think about makeup-colors, but makeup is used for looking skin better.
So I think it's based on what we prefer on skintones.

Hope you tell us more about color pinning on the friday call.

Greetings, Tanja