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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:28 pm
by mikemeister_admin
I made some time on my trip to visit a Cistercian Abbey, built around 1150, and took the following 2 photos of a very impressive Cellarium.
It was a dull overcast day, not much light, no tripod and I didnt bother with trying to set WB.
These 2 shots are from different cameras - would you like to have a bash at the one you prefer?
PS you can see the scale by the couple of people in one of the pcitures.
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:18 pm
by mikemeister_admin
Just to start the ball rolling
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:31 pm
by mikemeister_admin
And the image.A recreation,I lost the original save.The idea was a neutral on the wall.
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:49 pm
by ggroess
zog,
Can you give me a bit bigger version.when I go to correct this it breaks down pretty fast..
Greg
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:08 pm
by mikemeister_admin
here is one
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:09 pm
by mikemeister_admin
and tother
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:21 am
by ggroess
Thanks I'm going to play....
Greg
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:15 pm
by ggroess
Once again Chris you have presented a classic problem. In this case matching two similar images.
I'm not completely satisfied with the results but I also think it is a very subjective image set.
I decided to make the vertical match the horizontal for feel and color as much as I can. My look at it was that I liked the feel of the horizontal image and would work to bring that to the vertical.
I looked at the Horizontal image for clues to the vertical one. I made a modest correction to the horizontal image and got it closer to what I would expect to see if I had gone to the Abby. I then made a series of pins from the horizontal image and tried to make the vertical image look more like the horizontal one. The shadows are and were the sticking point. I have tried repeatedly to bring them more in line with the shadows from the Horizontal image.
Lighting and Exposure certainly make this a bigger challenge than one would expect.
The trouble is the contrast is tricky in the vertical image and I tried the various color spaces and even tried CMYK just to see what happened.
In the end I settled for a single pin on the ground from the horizontal image to bring the colors back as close as I had time for. The contrasty shadows make the color correction of the Green a interesting problem that I have not quite overcome.
I think I'm closer and that is going to have to do it for now...
The ACV file is for the vertical image.
Greg
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:46 pm
by mikemeister_admin
Very interesting Greg - for me the Green/magenta colours present problems as I too prefer the horizontal, but would like warmer and variation in the vertical colours (they should have cleaned the sandstone!). It is without doubt the shadows contrast which is very awkward.
The place had a certain magic to behold and I feel I shall be wresting for sometime to try and portray what I felt. One think I shall definitely do is copy the people in from the vertical to the horizontal one to give the scale of this building.
I even eventually admit defeat and go for black&white!!
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:55 pm
by mikemeister_admin
Are those lamps on the ground throwing light?