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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:38 pm
by -default
A couple of days ago I spent some time playing around with the GrowCut Mask and Extract plugins. 
http://research.graphicon.ru/image-processing/gml-growcut.html

These are an alternative to Photoshop's Extract function and help to separate an object from its background.  They work quite well, and are a lot of fun to learn because of the in terractive display.  It's fun, but hard to describe how the image comes alive in a liquid sort of way as you select different areas

These should work with Elements as well as Photoshop.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:08 pm
by BBushe
wow, that is superb!

and free.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:44 pm
by mikemeister_admin

A couple of days ago I spent some time playing around with the GrowCut Mask and Extract plugins. 
http://research.graphicon.ru/image-processing/gml-growcut.html

These should work with Elements as well as Photoshop.



Mike,

first I was glad, and perhaps in the future, I am glad, but on the moment not.
I have experimented the whole evening on the 2 plugins, where are .8bs and not .8bf.
They worked till I click on the end ok.
The real result is a black and white mask and not a extraction.
I know how it worked with photoshop 7 and I know how it worked with photoshop elements 4.0.
But the result is not so,  as bescribed in the plugin manual.

you know a solution to that.?
I am also studying the masking in the hidden powerelements 4.0 which I have.
Perhaps a combination of these two can lead to a result ?

Frits

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:08 am
by -default
Try running it from the Select menu instead of the Filter menu.  The result will be a selection instead of a mask, and you can then copy and paste the resulting selection.

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:18 am
by mikemeister_admin

Try running it from the Select menu instead of the Filter menu.  The result will be a selection instead of a mask, and you can then copy and paste the resulting selection.


Mike,

you are right, it worked on that way.
I have never looked at the Select segment.
Now I am glad.
In the evening I go experimenting again.

Frits
P.s. very very much thank you. Also for the plugin-tip.

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:41 pm
by mikemeister_admin
Mike,

I have used GrowCut extract and it works better than P.S.E 4.0 and also photoshop 7.0 which I have used  a while in the early days.
I can now do a extraction, and at the same time make al layer mask with all the old information still there.
anf of course , I can ad several backgrounds, if I wish.
Nice, its nearly the old Photoshop for photografy.

Frits


Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:41 pm
by mikemeister_admin
How extracting and still  have it all.

Frits

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:42 pm
by mikemeister_admin
more...

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:09 am
by -default
Well, I'll be darned.  Layer masks in Elements!  Thanks for the example, Frits.

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:17 pm
by mikemeister_admin

Well, I'll be darned.  Layer masks in Elements!  Thanks for the example, Frits.


Mike,

perhaps you are more darned, if you see what Hidden Power can do for Photoshop Elements 4.0.

Frits